I have discussions with other Christians of all kinds of denominations, mostly through the internet since I do not go to church. I learn on my own using a Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance to trace back every word to the original Hebrew and Greek languages. In some discussions I get points of view that are stridently defended which I cannot ascertain how they arrive to those particular conclusions. I get it that denominations teach certain doctrines, but the students fail to ask questions that should raise infrared flags. Easy questions.
The last discussion I had was with several at a time in which they all believe that every Christian was destined to become one. They believe any Christian is God’s elect, which means God’s chosen. I asked them “is every Christian destined to become one” since this was their obvious point of view. They never decided to ask themselves this question in this particular way and would not answer me. All they will do is point out verses twisted to their point of view. They won’t answer that particular question I asked because in their heart of hearts it doesn’t sound right. These are students of the Reformed Lutheran Church I was told. Really? Every Christian was destined to become one? What about everyone else? Why are they condemned for something they cannot do?
I pointed out to them the parable of the wedding feast which Jesus said many are called, but few are chosen. The best I got was that the parable’s meaning was within its direct context. If that’s the case, then it’s not a parable at all, is it? That would mean the parable of the mustard seed is only about mustard seeds. The parable of the workers of a vineyard was confined to those workers in the field, and so on. As I explained, it is written that Christians are the bride of Christ when He returns. The parable meant that many are called to be at this wedding but few are chosen. Obviously it doesn’t say all are chosen, so that means everyone that will be there cannot be chosen to be there. If there are people at this wedding that are neither chosen or called, then that’s it. That should end that debate right there, right? Not for these people. I realize it’s hard to admit you’re wrong about certain things, especially if it’s coming from someone that you entrust to tell you the truth about God’s word, but it doesn’t get any plainer than the parable of the wedding feast that not all Christians were destined to become Christians.
If that’s not enough, then those that believe this should ask themselves some simple questions:
1. Would only Christians be able to sin? God will not condemn those who are not accountable. If they cannot become a Christian, then how can they achieve forgiveness? If they cannot achieve forgiveness, then they shouldn’t be able to sin.
2. Is every Christian a prophet? Prophets were chosen before they were put in the womb, as is written of Jeremiah. They were not chosen for anything they’ve done in this life to become prophets. If every Christian was also chosen to become one, then what sets them apart from Jeremiah or any other prophet? Another thing, why even have prophets? They would serve no purpose if those who turn to God are destined to.
3. Should you speak about your faith? There’s a difference between expressing your faith and praising God. Should speaking about your faith be for you or for others? If it’s for others, which should be your answer, then it’s pointless, right? They cannot be swayed since they aren’t allowed to. Those who can be swayed are destined to find God anyway.
4. What did they ever do to make God choose them to become Christians, but not prophets? More leftovers from question #2.
5. What is the purpose of this life? Only those who were to find grace were supposed to find it. This life then means nothing. Our souls must be much older than our flesh since God chose Jeremiah before he was in the womb. So why have this life? Someone pointed out to me that what I’m not understanding is that this is about separating the sheep from the goats, not making sheep out of goats. I find that statement amazing. I’m sorry, but that’s a garbage statement. We should not preach if the goats cannot be turned into sheep. If there will be no goats turned into sheep, then the divide already exists so again why have this life? OY!
6. Why would Jesus have to speak to people who would become Christians in parables but spoke openly to His disciples if only Christians were able to be swayed? What would be the need of a parable? If there are only those that can understand Jesus’ words when they hear it, couldn’t He just speak openly to them?
These are some very simple questions, and I’m sure there are some of you that can add questions that would be impossible to answer with any confidence by someone holding fast to that doctrine. The ONLY ones destined to become Christian are the few- the prophets. God’s true elect. God chose them. By choosing Jesus or God, you are making your election to Him, not God making His election of you. When this life is over and the next age comes, then you have a destiny because your fate is sealed. Only those who are the election of grace have a true destiny in this life. As is written of the wedding feast, the election of grace are few. There is no number, but the last generation will have seven thousand as is written in Romans 11. I will leave a link to the explanation of the reiteration of Paul of God and Elijah’s conversation and prove that those seven thousand men and women were not on Earth at that time. In order for God to reserve anyone, He would have to keep their souls until it was time for them to live. That’s how God reserves anyone. The only two that God allowed to live and reserve them are Elijah and Enoch. They never died.
People need to open their eyes a bit. I realize only the election of grace are without the spirit of slumber, but some things should be easily surpassed by easy questions. Men put on their own slumber with their sense of entitlement, ignorance, and ego. When you are unwilling ( I do not believe unable) to ask yourselves easy questions, then you have hit your ceiling. You cannot go any further, despite God having His own ceiling for you. If you hinder yourselves, you will not even come close to what God is allowing you to reach. Wake up!