MY MESSAGE TO THE ELECTION OF GRACE

My message is simple… get off of your butts! God has reserved seven thousand of you for this time to live, and we are at the doorstep ready to take the first steps towards why we live at all. We aren’t living for our own sakes, for we have already been rendered innocent by the Lord God (Romans 8:30). We may be some time away from the actual Tribulation Period, but bad times come beforehand. Very bad times. The first day of the Great Tribulation will be a day celebrated by most of the world, but not by us. The principalities of this world have seduced this creation into believing they are entitled to things they are not. They have used the covetousness of our creation against us, and now this world is at the brink of collapse to reform it into something they have long desired. Before the Antichrist confirms the covenant with many, hard times will befall this world. The protests being funded by one of the Kenites shows we are days away from the fall.

I feel the election of grace have lagged behind and far too many do not even know they are of the elect yet. This life isn’t about you. This life isn’t about your career or having fun by dancing at clubs and pushing away your calling. Hopefully in time you will get in gear and be ready for your purpose. You can’t fail yourselves, but you can fail those you have an innate sense of responsibility for. For those wondering if you are one of the elect or are just beginning to understand, I have written much about doctrine here to help you on your way. If you are one of the elect, you will know the voice of the shepherd. Get on the fast track and understand Romans 11 to its full, true meaning. I hope my fears will be unfounded, but this generation certainly is not suited to be one of the elect. The pull to sin is at its greatest now than ever before. We must fight this urge to sin and stop looking at everything inward. This goes for myself as well. We sin, for we are not perfect. There was only One who was, and He is not among us, yet He is inside us leading us down our path. Answer His call and His push, for time is rapidly running out. We have all been toughened like metal in some way, but we must not let ourselves become a victim. Once we do that, we will have begun failing this creation.

For every million amongst our creation, there is only one of you. Don’t let that intimidate you. Let that inspire you. Let that motivate you. What we will get during the next age and beyond is something none of us can imagine. Before our births, we were the only ones never to bow our knees. We did not buckle, nor shall we in this life. When the world embraces in celebration, we will sigh. When the world bends the knee as they see a dead man rise, our anger for him will inspire our triumph. When we shall be taken, and only we, this world will know what we were. When we leave, this world all in a moment will give glory to God. It shall only last a moment, but it is our trump that brings them to realize there truly is a God. What a day that will be when we can say to ourselves “my job is finished”! Sometime in this life, we will probably all see eachother. Until then, do what you were born to do.

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112 comments on “MY MESSAGE TO THE ELECTION OF GRACE

  1. Mrs. AL says:

    Great and timely admonition, Jesse. Don’t know what inspired this post at this particular time … I am grateful! Thanx.

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      What inspired this post at this time is the first steps of world revolution have begun with these protesters. This is how it starts. Then will come the collapse. Time is most certainly running out. If this isn’t my last post, it surely is one of them. I have covered just about all questions to do with doctrine, as well as what faces all of us and who is bringing it about. I have finished the second task God has set before me. Now it’s up to people, elect or not to read what I have written or figure things out on their own. Much of what I have written is purposely for the future. When they read what I have written and see the date, the other things will be more credible.

  2. pepperhawk says:

    I plan to vote ABO. There is nothing I don’t know about which u have written.

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      I won’t vote at all, since it will be meaningless. America is not the fight. This fight is about salvation. You know the secret of Romans 11?

  3. Mark says:

    Thank God I’ve found you! The holy spirit has lead me to you! Is there a way i can email you, and ask you a few questions about God’s election of Grace?

  4. Hi Jesse,
    Hard to accept that Iran sent a flunkie to kill a saudi ambassador and Iran gets pissy about it after they were caught (if true? or created crisis). Libya’s bad war weapons crossing the northern Egyptian border. Yes, You’re on target predicting the end of ages coming. Beck did a show on Amindinajhad Iran looking for their 13th imam which is the end for muslims.

    It’s been a pleasure to read your site and I will keep checking back. I wish you well.
    AW

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      I think the attempted assassination story is quite true, which shows Iran is sending a message to the US. This attempt could have been done in just about any other nation, but they chose the US to have this done. Luckily he was a moron, but this equals in my mind an act of war whether it was thwarted or not. Whether we believe what Ahmadinejad believes is irrelevant. It’s that he believes it is the problem for all of us in the future.

      Obama the great Christian decided to send a message against Christians in Egypt basically telling them to stop whining that they’re being killed by the same people the Obama administration and Soros-funded media said were peaceful and would never come to power since they were such a minority. Given that, we have all brought the end upon ourselves from the four corners of the world and in every walk of life. Even those that identify themselves as Christians have played a role in bringing about the end by not adhering to the written Word.

      As I said to Mrs. AL, this might be my last post. I don’t know if I might write something in the future, but as far as what I needed to write, I have covered everything I needed to cover at this point in time. I have finished this task God has given me. Hopefully my next task is right before my feet. I hope you’re well, also. God bless.

  5. Oleg says:

    Hi Jesse! how are you? I like what you write here. But I think it is too late.

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      The elect cannot fail as a whole. If one of the elect pushes away their calling for too long, it is the ones around them that will suffer. Those who are here to make a choice for salvation, which is everybody else, will be hard pressed to listen to and depend on someone that also doesn’t know which way is up or down. If one of the elect is running around like a chicken with its head cut off, how could they serve those they are responsible for? At some point, even the most hardheaded of the elect will have the knowledge they’ll need.

  6. oleg says:

    wanted to ask about favorites…. how can a person know that he is elected? Glad to read you again

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      What do you mean by favorites? As far as the elect goes, there is definitely a calling for the elect to read, but many are called who are not one of the elect. After answering their calling and walking down that path, the elect will eventually know during the course of time. It will be inescapable.

      • oleg says:

        I mean elected. What do you think about Libya and Qaddafi? I think that the Colonel good guy or am I wrong?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Qaddafi wasn’t good. He killed innocent people in that Lockerbie attack. He’s just another evil in a long line of evil in that part of the world. As far as what happens in Libya, we’re going to have an Islamic califate. I wrote about this in February that there are people like Soros who are funding these revolutions in the arab countries to intimidate Israel. Obama is behind it as well and his administration has lied about the people involved in these revolutions. With Egypt, the Obama administration said right after the revolution that the Muslim Brotherhood are peaceful people and could never come to power since they were such a minority. Soon after, Christans in Egypt started being killed and their churches destroyed by the Muslim Brotherhood. Some of the Egyptian army is also helping kill Christians and the Muslim Brotherhood are poised to lead Egypt. Libya will be no different. The Muslim Brotherhood will take over and will threaten the West starting with Israel. What I wrote of in February, much of it has already come true.

      • oleglosev says:

        Thank you for your reply! So Gaddafi is evil. But what better mode Gaddafi or new Islamic caliphate? I understand that America did not like Kadafi, He introduce to a threat to Europe and America. But the new caliphate which will include Libya will get worse. I do not see the logic. Europe and America, helping the revolution in Libya is digging its own grave. Am I right or not

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        I’m not saying a new califate isn’t going to be worse, all I’m saying is that Qaddafi was evil. The logic of having a califate is to threaten Israel and the west, because Soros is a Kenite. It’s in his genes to hate Israel and liberty. You are 100% correct that the west is digging its own grave.

  7. oleglosev says:

    when the soviet union collapsed… the west and America considered USSR, as”evil empire. “The world had a new threat of an islamic caliphate, which would confront the west and America. The caliphate is much worse than the soviet threat. I just don’t understand why the west is so afraid of the USSR???

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      Well even Brezhnev said the intention of the USSR was to take over the world. You ever notice it’s always the atheists that try to be God over the people? The Godless are the ones who get a God complex.

  8. oleglosev says:

    now in Russia is ruled by Masson

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      It was meant to be corrupted since it was corruption to begin with. The plot was to get the working class to get behind Lenin and his elite revolutionary buddies while he said he would look out for them. Once the tide turned, the rich got on his side and together they clamped down on the Russian people. He didn’t need the working class anymore. Sure there were jobs, but a person couldn’t make themselves rich. Somehow there were still rich people in the USSR, but that’s because they were already rich. Lenin’s idea was to corrupt the working class into believing they’d get their fair share and the rich would have to give them things they coveted. That obviously didn’t happen. People tried to escape. Some were successful, but most were not. In eastern and western European nations, the same plot played out from Chauchesku to Hitler and Mussolini. There was the Iron Curtain that people weren’t allowed to leave. That doesn’t sound like a good society to me. Some people were lucky enough to defect. Most were not.

      • oleglosev says:

        much of what you say is correct. Now, let’s see the results. Lenin had destroyed all of the rich well, or forced them to go. It is a fact…. the fact that is he use the money of the bourgeois countries with the help of which he made the revolution…here I mean Germany. Revolution is done! The workers and peasants came to power. Started transition of military communism to a peace-building. Then comes to power of Stalin. Peaceful construction going on, but the beginning of a reign of terror against dissidents.When was Stalin… rich people, could not be as a class. And in the USSR there was no private property.From 1917 to 1953 the rich could not be . After Stalin’s death, when Khrushchev came to power there were the first seeds of corruption.The soviet people were not rich but were unsure of the future. Yes! some of the soviet people wanted to wealth. But wanted more of the big money are those who were in power. This is the time of Brezhnev, Yeltsin. When they got a lot of money laundering, they decided to destroy the USSR. Because the soviet system prevented them legalize their wealth. People couldn’t understand is it.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        This is what I meant in this post and others that people know that taking down this country will come with its benefits. I wrote in another post that people who get on the side of Soros earliest will get the most. Not all of the rich died or left the USSR, some played ball with Lenin. Lenin as well as all marxists need the rich, or else the country wouldn’t have any money. Poor people can’t hire workers.

      • oleglosev says:

        You’re right,did not all rich leave from the RSFSR. RSFSR this name USSR after the revolution. some of them went over to the side of the revolution, but did not have already their wealth. Of course in the USSR there were a lot of bad but and was a lot of good things (free education, medicine and other things). A little like to tell you about Gaddafi. I was told some people who were in Libya under Qaddafi, the people there lived not so bad. Of course worse than in America. But in the past 5 years Gaddafi gave guarantee of obtaining an apartment and a car for their citizens.IN the USSR, too, we did not buy the apartments we receive them from the state free of charge, in perpetuity. Policy Gaddafi inside the country were unhappy with only emigrants. They with the help of Europe and America overthrew the regime. There is a new redivision of the world and preparation for the legalization of a world government. In a world government there is no place for dictatorships. And no matter the USSR it or Libya.

      • oleglosev says:

        I do not understood about click on profile? I clicked on my profile but saw nothing new. You’re right my friend! Soros is a pig, But the world will already not save. We must pray and be saved themselves. Maybe you know another option?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        This is true that all of these things that are happening are to form a New World Order, but it will be a world dictatorship disguised as “world fairness” where no more people can become rich so they can’t fund any future revolts. At least this is Soros’ plan. Perhaps each region will have a sub dictator, which is another reason why Soros wants a califate, while there will be a world dictator. The Bible says this world government will only be intact for three and a half years.

  9. oleglosev says:

    I heard that in America the youth demonstrations, is this true? What do they wants, these young people?

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      This is true, but it’s not just here. They don’t know what they want. Soros told his few youthful delegates to spread the word to begin the protests, which is the first sign that the plug is about to be pulled. Most don’t have the same reason for being there. They’re being used.

      • oleglosev says:

        If Soros helps the rioters then he plays against Obama? But he advisor to Obama. How can this be?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Obama is not the target of their antagonism. Obama has spoken favorably about the protesters, as well as the democrats. Some point soon, the protests will become violent. Some already have. At some point, great economic hardships will come which will only make the movement bigger down the road.

      • oleglosev says:

        In America, a revolution is possible, do you think? In Europe is already envisaged the breakup of the euro zone. In Russia after the elections again in power will be a party of thieves and crooks.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Possible and probable. Everyone is on the verge of collapse. All that needs to happen is for some type of big conflict to throw energy prices up and it will all come crashing down. We must always as Christians back Israel no matter what.

      • oleglosev says:

        In Russia long ago the prices for energy carriers large and revolution no. I did not understand what you said about Israel?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Israel will start this conflict for self-preservation, and then get blamed for the economic consequences.

      • oleglosev says:

        I do not understand why israel will receive the accusation in the economic consequences? If there will be a caliphate!!! That is end Israel, the west and America will not be able to help Israel. May be you mean that the west will spend money to help Israel in the war against the Caliphate? Then when Israel will lose the war, the west will suffer for their money which he spent?

      • oleglosev says:

        I thought that America supports Israel. You say all christians should return to Israel? But it is not possible, it is utopia! I do not think that we are descended from jews. And I do not think that we should go back to Israel. Jews are jews and we are we. And I don’t see the connection.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Soros the Kenite hates Israel, and he controls the media. Obama hates Israel too because in his warped mind, Israel is an oppressor nation, plus he is controlled by Soros also. Most of the world hates Israel, as is routinely evident with the UN. Israel for the most part will go at it alone, which is how Soros and Obama wants it. The UN or the US will not do anything meaningful to Iran to keep it from developing nuclear weapons, forcing Israel to deal with Iran and the backlash themselves.

  10. oleglosev says:

    I thought that America supports Israel. You say all christians should return to Israel? But it is not possible, it is utopia! I do not think that we are descended from jews. And I do not think that we should go back to Israel. Jews are jews and we are we. And I don’t see the connection.

  11. oleglosev says:

    I think that the Old covenant is a guide only to the jewish people. And the Gospel is a guide for all..

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      I didn’t say we should return to Israel. I said we must be on the side of Israel. The American people support Israel, but Obama definitely does not. Jesus said “I have not come to destroy the law or the prophets, but to fulfill them.” It was time to forgive the sinner, but those laws still stand. Read my post “God’s Tolerance in the Old Testament”.

      • oleglosev says:

        how do I find that post? I was looking for but because of my poor English could not find it.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Type in the search bar on the right column “Tolerance Old Testament” and it should turn up. That or just keep going back to previous pages at the bottom of my site. As far as bringing together different sects of Christianity goes, it sounds good on the surface. As you may know, I am against all denominations. I believe we should all say we are simply Christians, however I do know there are evil forces who want as many denominations under the same umbrella so they can be controlled when the False Prophet comes.

      • oleglosev says:

        sorry friend, but unfortunately I didn’t find anything. Don’t know why it happened.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        I’ll type in the web address so you can highlight, copy, and paste it since I can’t provide links for some reason next time I’m on my computer. I’d do it now but I’m on my ps3.

  12. oleglosev says:

    The Patriarch of Moscow Kirill wants to unite with the western churches( ecumenism). What do you say?

  13. oleglosev says:

    In orthodoxy there are people who do not want to unite with the western churches. I, too, am of this opinion.

  14. Mrs T says:

    Hi Jesse, I have noticed a real surge in selfishness, two facedness and people out to get other people. Now is this a sign of the world speeding up to bring about the end. I feel that I have spent the last few years having my eyes and ears opened by something. But just reccently its like people just dont know what they are doing or how bad they sound. I am shocked honestly and I really dont think they are bad but blind. What would you suggest? What would one of the elect do? How do you ‘get off your bottom’ and act. Nobody that I know cares. As it was in the days of Noah so it is now. Its like they’ve all been brainwahed.
    Mrs T.

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      I wrote in a blog a while back about how it was when I first answered my call. I have known all my life that we are in the last days, even before I started reading when I was turning 25. I said that even though I knew and had the facts shortly after reading the Bible, that at the time I couldn’t picture how it could come about because people would have to be a certain way. Sixteen years ago, I couldn’t see how people could get to that point. Now? There’s no question that people have that lack of natural affection the Bible portrayed the people during the end. How to act is to read and study as hard as one can. The way to help them now is simply plant seeds. Don’t argue or try to open eyes. Their eyes are closed and only time can open them. Even then, it will be up to them if they want them open. People will have brought the end upon themselves.

    • oleglosev says:

      The people were blind always. And few people wanted to follow the biblical commandments. But you cannot know the truth of only from the Bible, there are still good sources. But I want to say all these sources are subjective and the Bible too.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        I’ve never seen such blindness as I do now. We have all the history available to us, yet those who really know it are mocked by those who don’t. Those who refuse to think for themselves are portrayed as the great thinkers in today’s world. Everything seems to be the opposite of what it should be. No, I’ve never seen such blindness in all my life, and I’ve always studied people intently. The Bible doesn’t tell us every little thing because it shouldn’t have to. The only reason the Bible is subjective is because men have made it subjective. Men have always had blindness as is written in Romans 11 with the spirit of slumber, but men have brought on their own slumber on top of it. Nearly all people have this ceiling of understanding given by God, but I have yet to run into one person who has reached their ceiling. The blindness today is unlike any in this age, for men have made themselves this blind.

      • oleglosev says:

        why do you think that people have made the Bible subjective?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Jesus Revelation 2&3. The fact that denominations each have a different and incorrect take on things that are written clearly in the Bible. Jesus was against the doctrine of men. The fact that people have simple questions their churches can’t answer, but I have given clear and conclusive answers based only on the same book. Can’t be a Christian and not think the Bible was written by God through the Holy Spirit out of the pen of one of His elect. This is the base of all faith.

      • oleglosev says:

        I agree with you. Some people say, that Jesus was not the son of god, but was a teacher of the new doctrine. That Jesus is the principle of god. Some spiritual aspect. I’m confused and don’t know who to believe.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Don’t worry about who to believe, but what to believe. Jesus repeated the first part of Psalm 22:1 on the cross for a reason, where in the 16th verse speaks of his crucifixion. This was written a millennium before Jesus lived. I remember you said your Bible had Psalm 22 as “the Lord is my shepherd”, which means your Bible skipped the real Psalm 22. Look up on the internet for Psalm 22. Then from that, read the gospels. Believe that.

      • oleglosev says:

        can you give me a link where I can download psalm 22 of which you speak or download Bible king James version?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Were you able to find a Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance online?

      • oleglosev says:

        yes…thank you Jesse, I found this on the internet. By the way the version of the king James is not much different from the orthodox Bible. The basic meaning of one and the same. I found a version of the king James here http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        It didn’t have the real Psalm 22, which is the most important chapter in the Bible. Keep studying the KJV with the Strong’s. It will open your eyes. Good luck.

      • oleglosev says:

        (It didnt have the real Psalm 22) I do not understand this proposal what does it mean? Do you mean, that in the king James Bible by this link, that I sent…. 22 psalm is written not right?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        No I was referring to your orthodox Bible which had Psalm 22 as being “the Lord is my shepherd…” You said your orthodox Bible and the KJV were basically the same.

      • oleglosev says:

        yes it is so, except in the 22nd psalm. I compared the Bible king James version, with the orthodox, the difference is not large. How do you feel about kabbalah? A lot of interesting things, especially about the tower of babel.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Don’t know much about kaballah, except Madonna, Britney Spears, and other vacuous celebrities made it a hip, cool thing so that took away any possible interest I might have.

      • oleglosev says:

        Well..I think, that Madonna and Britney just pay tribute to fashion. The teaching of interesting…but very cold. Although, I think, will be to have the future for those people, who don’t believe in christianity.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        We’ll see what happens when the last trumpet sounds and the mystery of God is finished. For years it’s amazed me that it takes the sounding of the last trumpet to remove the mystery of God. Not any of the ones before it, the vials, or the prophets remove it completely for the truly numbskulled.

      • oleglosev says:

        probably you’re right. But when the last trumpet sounds? In every age of people thought that last trumpet will sound soon. I’ve recently watched the movie of Mel Gibson’s the Apocalypse. In this film savages brought blood sacrifices and their apocalypse came together with the spaniards. I wonder where it will come from our apocalypse?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        The sounding of the last trumpet will be a call for salvation.

      • oleglosev says:

        well let’s wait for the sound of the last trumpet. Let’s hope to God may he preserve our souls.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Psalm 22:1 “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me? Why are You so far from helping Me and the words of My moaning?” 2 “O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You don’t hear; and in the night season and I’m not silent.” 3 “But You are Holy, oh You that inhabits the praises of Israel.” 4 “Our fathers trusted in You: they trusted, and You did deliver them.” 5 “They cried unto You, and were delivered: they trusted in You, and were not confounded.” 6 “But I am a worm, and am no man: a reproach of men, and despised of the people.” 7 “All they that see Me laugh Me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head saying,” 8 “He trusted on the Lord that He would deliver Him: let Him deliver Him, seeing He delighted in Him.” 9 “But You are He that took Me out of the womb: You did make Me hope when I was upon My mother’s breasts.” 10 “I was cast upon You from the womb: You are My God from My mother’s belly.” 11 “Be not far from Me; for trouble is near: for there is none to help.” 12 “Many bulls have compassed Me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset Me round.” 13 “They gaped upon Me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.” 14 “I am poured out like water, and all My bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of My bowels.” 15 “My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and My tongue cleaves to My jaws; and You have brought Me into the dust of death.” 16 “For dogs have compassed Me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed Me: they pierced My hands and My feet.” 17 “I can see all My bones: they look and stare upon Me.” 18 “They part My garments among them, and cast lots upon My vesture.” 19 “But be not far from Me, O Lord: O My strength, haste to help Me.” 20 “Deliver My soul from the sword; My darling from the power of the dog.” 21 “Save Me from the lion’s mouth: for You have heard Me from the horns of the unicorn.” 22 “I will declare Your name unto My brothers: in the midst of the congregation will I praise You.” 23 “You that fear the Lord, praise Him; all you the seed of Jacob, glorify Him; and fear Him, all you the seed of Israel.” 24 “For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither has He hid His face from him; but when he cried unto Him, He heard.” 25 “My praise shall be of You in the great congregation: I will pay My vows before them that fear Him.” 26 “The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek Him: Your heart shall live forever.” 27 “All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before You.” 28 “For the kingdom is the Lord’s: and He is the governor among many nations.” 29 “All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before Him: and none can keep alive his own soul.” 30 “A seed shall serve Him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.” 31 “They shall come, and shall declare His righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that He has done this.”

        Keep this. It is a very poignant tale told from a prophetic point of view of how Jesus would feel when He would be crucified. The translation is correct.

  15. Mrs T says:

    Hi Jesse, I agree entirely with your comments about the bible. I think it is very clear. My vicar actually laughed at me and said we came from chimps. I thought well why am I at church I should be at the zoo. She also said that satan isnt real. My friends in the church who have gone there all their lives don’t know anything and think I am a ‘bit deep’. They just enjoy the service and the hyms. They all line up for the eucharist every sunday, but you can only partake if you have been confirmed. So unconfirmed people are left out.
    I did the conifrmation class and was told off for asking the wrong types of questions. This vicar actually shouted at me and as I left in tears the other vicar whispered that I would be better talking to people in the pub!! So here I am in no mans land. I think that they have become so desperate to get people in to the church, she has to report back to head office numbers, that they dont want to put people off with the truth.

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      I think it’s more sinister than that. It is written that in the last days, priests will deny the Lord that they are supposedly working for. They are so blind that they do not realize they are fulfilling His word. There are agents of Satan working in many churches so they can fall under the synagogue of Satan’s umbrella when it comes.

      • oleglosev says:

        Thank you Jesse. A wonderful psalm…I had not read it. This psalm of the King James Bible? You don’t know where I can download Bible King James?

    • oleglosev says:

      Do you think that in the church do not need to go?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        I don’t go to church. I won’t suggest to anyone they shouldn’t go to church unless that particular church has failed miserably. There might be other churches out there that might be alright. One doesn’t have to go to church though. I did all of my learning on my own, which has definitely worked for me. Now I am trying to pass on my knowledge to others as best as I can.

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      Until you told me otherwise I thought that it was in every Bible. What I wrote was in the KJV, but I updated the language without compromising the meaning. You should be able to highlight, copy, then paste what I wrote into a folder in your computer.

      • oleglosev says:

        Hi! I found the KJV in the internet. What can you advise me to read in this version?

      • oleglosev says:

        And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Why the word the God is mentioned in the plural?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Good question. God was speaking to the angels. The subtle thing God was saying was “let Us make man this time in Our image.” We were already known as man. If you take in certain scripture about our souls being much older than our bodies, then what God said wouldn’t be so hidden. If you can find a way to get a Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance, study the KJV with it. That way you will have access to the Bible in its original languages of Hebrew and Greek.

      • oleglosev says:

        Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. Another question: God make coats of skins for Adam and Eve. This means they already have the skin at present. Does this mean that they do not had physical bodies in paradise?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        This was after they ate of the tree of knowledge. Before they ate of the tree, they were naked but were not ashamed. This means they already had skin. The Hebrew word there for “skins” was pronounced (ore), which means “hide”, “leather”. They probably didn’t know how to clothe themselves with animal hide since they were naked, so God did it for them.

      • oleglosev says:

        So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Here it is written that the Lord God created man and woman before he created Adam and Eve. It turns out that the people had already existed before Adam? Or maybe I’m wrong, what do you say?

  16. oleglosev says:

    Thanks for the advice I will try to find the 22nd psalm in the internet.

  17. oleglosev says:

    I would also like to say that not all the priests in the church of the cheaters.

  18. oleglosev says:

    you said that Noah’s ark stopped on mount Ararat, but here it is said that he stopped on the mountains of Ararat…… And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

  19. Jesse Norman II says:

    Because the first peaks of the mountains of Ararat to be seen would be the highest, those peaks would be where the ark rested. The highest mountain peak was known as Mount Masis, which is today known as Mount Ararat in modern day Turkey. This was also written in the books of Josephus.

    As far as the people being created before Adam and Eve, I was once there myself. I give you credit for analyzing and asking very nuanced questions. This will help you during your learning. If you look at what is written there, you could see there was some reiteration there about what had happened as God created the creatures of the Earth. The plants were mentioned a second time as well. What happened was God wrote of creating man on the sixth day, then He went back to writing about a specific man He created on the sixth day. In that same part you’re referring to, it is written about God creating plants to eat from which He already did on the sixth day.

    • oleglosev says:

      Some people thinking that adam – is all created by the creator of the soul, not a particular person how ancestor of all mankind

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Not sure if I’m understanding you correctly, but I’ll do my best. Way too many people feel that they’re so smart that just because they have the ability to come up with something in their minds that it means it’s as good as a fact. A new wave of people who know a little bit decide not to think further because once they come to know something that validates their opinions they act like they have figured everything out. Some will know the definitions of certain people in the Bible and then decide the entity is only a definition. Some will talk about how Satan means “opponent” and then assume Satan never existed. All he was was a defintion. My name also has a definition, but I am a living thing. I guess if I was written about several thousand years ago, I’d be talked about being only a definition also. People also like to outthink things because they think they’re the only ones that have the ability to think so well. All of them prove to be foolish.

  20. DrNofog says:

    Oleglosev said “…And God said, Let **us** make man… ..Why the word the God is mentioned in the plural?”

    Jesse, I’m surprised that you didn’t point this out to Oleglosev!?!

    Gen. 1:1 “In the beginning *gods* [Elohiym] created the Heavens & the Earth”.

    Hebrew words ending in ‘im’ are plural: Seraphim, Cherubim, Elohiym, etc.

    It is a strange idiosyncrasy of Hebrew that the context determines whether it is *gods* [plural], or *GOD* [singular] as is first seen in Genesis, especially at v27 “So Elohiym [Gods] created man in ‘his’[singular] own image, in the image of Elohiym [Gods] created he[singular] him; male and female created he[singular] them…”

    Why the constant and deliberate juxtaposition of plural and singular words? It’s a revelation of God’s nature that can only be received through the HS.

    The Jews are born & raised speaking this God-given language everyday without ever thinking of its idiosyncrasies. When you talk in Hebrew about the ‘Elohiym’ of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob they only hear ‘God’ [singular] without ever thinking about it.

    When you talk about the ‘elohiym’ of the world, they only hear ‘gods’, again, without thinking.

    Why? 2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remains the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.

    A number of years ago I heard a Messianic Jewish Bible teacher, who told of how his aged Rabbi mentor & friend, who could not understand how his friend could be converted to the Christian Trinity, came in one day posing that same question: “Hear O ‘ Israel The LORD your God is One LORD”.

    He answered “You know that that particular word carries a meaning of ‘Unity’ not just ‘singular’ and it is the same word used of Adam & Eve; “They two shall be ‘ONE’ flesh” in unity, not singular in being.

    He said the old Rabbi said “Hmmm”, and walked away, the veil still over his eyes…

    Exodus 20.2-3 ‘I am’ [singular] YeHoVaH your Elohiym [plural], which have brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 20.3 You shall have no ‘other’ elohiym [plural] before me.

    Elohiym #430, plural of Elowah #433, and of El #410 — #430 = (plural) rulers, judges, divine ones, angels, gods, god, goddess, godlike, works or special possessions of God, GOD (the true God). King James Word Usage – Total: 2606 – God 2346, god 244, judge 5, GOD 1, goddess 2, great 2, mighty 2, angels 1, exceeding 1, God-ward 1, godly 1.

    Elowah #433, God, false god. King James Word Usage – Total: 57 – God 52, god 5.

    In John 1:1 we see not only that the Word was “in the beginning,” but we are told twice that the Word was “with God.”
    Not only did God and the Word exist in the beginning but they were together, and their togetherness included the united action of creation.

    **“With”** cannot be ‘one’ as it automatically speaks of at least ‘two’ things or persons!

    I don’t presume to understand God’s triune nature, but from all I read in the sacred scriptures I accept it by faith.
    Since I have believed I think I have been given a much more decent & explainable understanding that conforms itself within biblical revelation.

    “Hear O ‘ Israel, YeHoVaH your *Gods* is One YeHoVaH”. Hallel to the one Eternal SelfExistingOne.

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      Elohiym can also simply be lordship above others, which could entail the holy angels, since they are above us. I, too have studied the Bible in its original languages, and I find how some things connect with other things one can’t come up with simply by reading a KJV. What you have written about is very advanced, which I don’t delve into openly at my site due to the spirit of slumber, which is a different type of veil than He put on the Jewish people. If the Jews accept Christ, their veil is lifted, as is so written. Those who don’t will have to wait until God pours His spirit back onto them. Then people will know the difference between Jews and those who say they are Jews, but instead are liars. The Gentiles will have to wait until the mystery of God is finished before the spirit of slumber is removed. I like what you have written, because I can see you have studied very hard. You’re not afraid to ask yourself questions, which is the same with Oleg, and he’s just starting off. Jesus is the foundation of this world and this age in particular, so that would also definitely provide an explanation for the plural. The unity you speak of is true as it relates to the Trinity, but it’s also true of the holy angels. They were tempted by Helel, but stayed true to God. Only a third followed Helel, which is still too many. You know of the Elohiym, then you also must know of the nephilim, the plague of the locusts.

      • oleglosev says:

        of course, I badly know English and can’t fully understand what you write, but we know that God’s name Is Jehovah of Hosts, Yahweh, Elohim. Elohim, as I know from Hebrew is translated as gods. I may be wrong, don’t know…I think the word gods implies that a person is not created by one God, but other forces, may be, that is the angels or other helpers of God is involved in this

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Well I can’t speak a lick of russian, so I think you do well with english. I do know the holy angels look like men, because the fallen angels do. The nephil (fallen) are described as looking like men in Revelation 9:7. So taking in the plural, I always assumed God was speaking to the holy angels when He said “let Us make man in Our image”. It could be that He was speaking to Jesus. It could be that He was speaking to all of the above. Definitely makes for a good discussion.

      • oleglosev says:

        All this is interesting…tell me what for in general to study the Bible? That gave christianity the human race? I say this not because I don’t want to study the Bible or I was disappointed. The christian world there is long enough, but the people it is better not to. If God knows that man will be sin….and then will be the end of the world. So why all of this does a person need?

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        Wisdom is like a ladder, you can only get to the top by stepping on each rung as you go up. Some answers are best finding on your own. The intentions of my blog mostly are to challenge accepted doctrines of men pertaining to the Bible, and to help and communicate with God’s elect. The answers you seek take time and great patience. I’ve read the entire Bible five times, and most parts many more times than that. Everything that has to do with why have to do certain things is due to the pre-existence of our souls. You have access to a KJV now, find a Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance and study it. You can probably find a Strong’s available online to study along with. Satan is named Death for a reason.

      • oleglosev says:

        I sometimes turned to the Russian priests for the answers to my questions…but when they couldn’t answer my questions, they said that all the ” will of god”. You must admit friend! This is an interesting answer when you don’t know what to say, tell me that this is god’s providence.

      • Jesse Norman II says:

        I really wasn’t clear about what you were asking, and don’t assume that just because I don’t give an answer that I don’t have one. My job isn’t to give all of the answers to all of the questions. Now that you have access to a KJV, you can seek your own answers with use of a Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance. If I answered all of your questions, and let’s say you accept the answers as truth, I can’t give you that feeling of epiphany that comes from the glorious Holy Spirit. You might have some feeling of epiphany if you fully accept my answers as truth, but coming from somebody with experience on this matter, I guarantee the feeling of epiphany from God is nothing like anything you’ve felt before once you solved a mystery of God’s to 100% completion. I can’t give you that. Once you solve a mystery of God’s fully, you will know fully that you have solved it. There is no way I can give you that. Catalog your questions and then read the whole Bible. Live your life according to the Word. Pray always and reflect with great patience, then your Wisdom will grow. This is a life’s journey and it may take years for your answers to come, but there is nothing like the journey between man and God on the path to His Wisdom.

      • oleglosev says:

        Thank you Jesse for the answers to my questions, I will do as you suggest and will carefully study the Bible.

      • David says:

        I have to ask about this I would have never caught this. So if I’m getting this correct Jews have a veil put on them because they don’t believe Christ has came and died on the cross yet. So therefore when they read the plural parts of the old testament that have to do with God they see it as singular when it’s supposed to be plural? Because it has to do with something being with God which is his word and possibly Christ like when reading John chapter 1 from the very beginning? How also would this help tell the difference between Jews and the kenites that claim to be them? I had to read that over a couple times so if I’m way off just let me know and I wont go to deep into the questions over it.

      • Jesse Norman says:

        It’s not so much that they are unable to see the plurality of “Elohiym”, which I am assuming you’re getting at, but that their Messiah simply hasn’t come yet. Those who have a softened heart can read those scriptures, especially the prophecies of the Christ dying for our sins, might accept them. Those with a hardened heart will not make that connection. As far as seeing differences between Kenites and Jews, God will awaken the real Jews at some point. I believe it will be the abomination of desolation when this happens because they are warned by Daniel of it. Those Kenites who aren’t in the Book of Life will give the Antichrist their full faith, as will all people who aren’t in that book.

  21. Jesse Norman II says:

    You’re welcome.

  22. DrNofog says:

    Oleglosev,
    Kabbalah is numerology, a divination which is forbidden by the LORD God:

    Deuteronomy 18:9-12 (KJV)
    “9 When you are come into the land which the LORD your God gives you, you shall not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

    10 There shall not be found among you any one that makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that uses divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

    11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

    12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD your God does drive them out from before you.”

    This is one of the evil deceptions of the great whore “Mystery Babylon”, that Israel picked up in the Babylonian Captivity. These are attempts to find “hidden” knowledge and/or future events that God knows we are not able to handle before His appointed times.

    This is also what Jesus condemned in the Rabbis and Pharisees [Mark 7:1-13] who were following the perverted Babylonian Talmud [“teachings” and twisted “interpretations” of the Babylonian Rabbis], instead of following the Torah at face value:

    9 “…And he said unto them, Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition…
    …13 Making the word of God of no effect through your tradition, which you have delivered: and many such like things you do.”

    These are all a continuation of Satan’s 1st Slanderous Lie against the motives and character of God found in Genesis 3:1-5 “…You know what, God is holding out on you! He has ulterior motives and He doesn’t want you to know that you can become gods without Him…”

    This is the End Time deception of the New Agers [nothing new about it] and the Illuminati; believing that they are on the verge of the next evolutionary step: -Ascending into godhood…

    Now compare His Word at Deuteronomy 29:29 (KJV):
    29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed [ie. His Word] belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

    This is His firm promise that He will preserve His Word to us forever. All we have to do is trust Him and trust His Word, which is His bond.

    Trusting His Word is the key to being saved or not. Trust is the key word found through-out the OT and the word faith in the NT carries that same equivalent meaning. Faith is trust, not a blind faith.

    Interestingly, the word faith is not found in the Hebrew OT, but rather for prose, the several places where it is translated “faith”, it is the word “trust”, which comes from the root “truth”… ==> Trust the Truth of His Word!

    It’s that simple!
    13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13.

    Receiving deliverance from eternal damnation is all about accepting that He means exactly what He says in that He gives us His Eternal Life right when we call on Him and receive HIM into our lives.

    1 John 5:11-13
    11 And this is the record, that God **has given** [past tense, already done!] to us eternal [means it cannot go away] life, and this life is in his Son.

    12 He that has the Son has life; and he that has not the Son of God has not life.

    13 These things have I written unto you that believe [trust] on the name of the Son of God; that **you may know** that you have eternal life, and that you may believe [trust] on the name of the Son of God.

    Blessings

    • oleglosev says:

      You very interesting explained to me about the dangers of divination and kabbalah. I’m not a kabbalist. I believe in God. But kabbalah is not numerology. Kabbalah tells us that the creator sends us love, but we can’t accept this gift from the creator because of us egoism not give do it. So explain this kabbalists. They have no understanding of God…. there is a notion the creator or the force of the creator.

  23. DrNofog says:

    Oleglosev, for some strange reason, my reply to your comment on kabbalah is up under December 4 where Jesse said “you’re welcome” to you.

    Let me know what you think.

  24. DrNofog says:

    Jesse, am I doing something wrong where my posts are not showing up down here at the end instead of December 4??
    Also, does you blog support bold, italics, and links?

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      For some reason, my ability to post links is broken, and in the comment section it doesn’t support bold or italics. The articles are able to be bold and italic. As far as where your comments lie, I have no idea what happened. I’ve contacted wordpress as to how I can fix the link problem, but they never got back to me.

  25. LouAnn aka Armoney Washington says:

    Hi Jesse,
    I am glad to see your still writing and hope you are doing well with your health issue.
    Can you please include me in your prayers tonight. It’s your old friend.
    I am having another surgery, minor this time for gall bladder but I am about to lose everything except my old car if I cant find a Job after Christmas.
    Thanks for your endearing kindness

    • Jesse Norman II says:

      You got it, my friend! I hope everything turns out well for your surgery and financial situation. We are most certainly headed for tough times by design, but God will make sure His servants are taken care of. Times might test us but these times pass. The meek shall inherit the Earth. Be well and God bless you.

      PS: I’m fine thanks.

  26. Leonie says:

    Dose satan know who the elect are ?

  27. Mary says:

    Those are the ones he wants the most. Jesse, some posts back, I wished you would have told OLEGLOSEV, when he was talking about who to believe – I believe it’s 1 Timothy 1:3 about not teaching any other doctrine other than Jesus Christ. There may be others.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      I did. We did correspond through emails and elsewhere. He found me on MyOpera before they banned me.

  28. Mary says:

    Also, your teachings are pretty close to SHEPHERDS CHAPEL. If you want to learn the bible, it’s an excellent site. You both teach the same about the garden, the fallen angels, Marxism, etc., especially for those who have a hard time studying alone. Some of us just need a good teacher. Some like you are blessed and can do it on their own. Time is short, a good teacher could really come in handy. Again, I can’t thank you enough for the information you have put out on the kenites and their M.O. I pray things are well with you. Your in my prayers, God Bless

    • Jesse Norman says:

      There are some similarities for sure between what I teach and what they teach. Shepherd’s Chapel is quite good with some things but they are unquestionably wrong about others. I just go with the Word and never stop asking myself questions. I gave some good tips in my last post (I believe it was anyway) “The Quest For Wisdom”. I never cheated myself. I don’t begrudge anyone for going to church or needing a good teacher. I just add that they should study also on their own and test whatever is taught to them. If a person doesn’t cheat themselves they can really do themselves some good. Thanks for the prayers and the compliments. I’ll pray for you as well. God bless.

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