THE DEFINITIVE WORK ON KENITES, CAIN, AND THE SEED OF SATAN

As many of you know, I have written a lot about Kenites. As all do, I come to learn new things as time passes and I have learned more about Kenites in time. I have had a viewer who opened my eyes on something, which I will expand on here. I have some very smart and wise viewers, I tell ya. This post will be the most definitive writing on Kenites you will find on the web, and I will guarantee that. There will be both things prior touched on and things new here.

In Genesis, Eve was beguiled by the serpent, Satan (Revelation 12:9, 20:2). God told Satan that his seed and the woman’s seed would have enmity toward eachother, saying “he shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel”. In Genesis 4:1, Eve gives birth to Cain, saying “I have gotten a man from the Lord”. As I have stated, Satan was told of his child, but Eve was not. Plus, only God can create a soul. No matter how you put it, God gave her a child with Cain. In verse 2, a viewer pointed out the original Hebrew word for “again” really meant “continued”. Eve continued to give birth and had Abel. As I had contended previously when answering viewer’s questions, Eve must have had twins. The original Hebrew corroborates this. Obviously the serpent fathered only one. God said so. Next we see in the story that God was not happy with Cain’s offering, but after Cain’s countenance fell God told him he would be accepted if he did well. This is something too often ignored by people who have studied the ‘Kenite doctrine’. Cain had the chance to do good because Cain’s soul was created by God, not Satan. Further proving Cain was the child of Satan and Eve is Cain fulfilling the prophecy God gave to Satan. Cain killed Abel because he was tormented (he shall bruise your head) by the good works of his brother (and you shall bruise his heel). The heel being part of the foot means action-work. Cain was then banished and married a woman in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

In Genesis 15:19, God promises Abraham lands that belonged to other nations including the Kenites. In the original Hebrew, Kenites are directly tied to Cain which I will get to later.

Moses was also banished, but from Egypt and wound up in Midian. He wound up marrying Zipporah, a Kenite daughter of a Midianite priest named Jethro (was also known as Hobab). Now to much contention, I said that indeed Moses’ father in law (also wife) were Kenites by blood. Many said that he was only a Kenite because of the area he lived in, since Kenites did live in Midian, but that didn’t make sense. He was a Midianite because of the area he lived in. In Numbers and Judges, the original Hebrew points out conclusively that Moses’ father in law was a Kenite by blood and that Kenites were direct descendants of Cain. These two examples should read as follows:

Numbers 24:21:22  ” And he looked on the Kenites and took up his parable, and said ‘Strong is your dwellingplace and you put your nest in a rock. (22) Nevertheless, the *Cain* shall be wasted until Asshur shall carry you away captive.'”

Judges 4:11. “Now Heber the *Cain*, which was of the children of Hobab the father in law of Moses, had severed himself from the Kenites, and pitched his tent unto the plain of Zaanaim, which is by Kedesh.”

Judges 1:16 also points out that Moses’ father in law was a Kenite by blood. Those two verses above, there were mistranslated words and both showed the Kenites came from Cain. Since the Kenites came from Cain and have been around throughout the time before Abraham to now, they had to have survived the flood. Remember, Noah was told to gather two of every kind in the *land* on the ark (two unclean, fourteen clean). “Land” was the rightful meaning for the word “earth”. Read my post “How Did Noah Fit All The Animals On The Ark” for a new, but conclusive take on what was on the ark.

The Kenites from this point on became part of Israel, although not Israelite by flesh and blood. They became part of Israel’s culture and had important roles in the land. In 1st Chronicles 2:55, Kenites were appointed to be scribes. This is an important position to give those that were not Israelites. Over time, Kenites who went in the way of their father became power-hungry and used their smooth-talking skills to propel themselves to power. They probably never had so much power than when the Romans took over the land of Israel, and any threat to their power structure would be dealt with harshly. In Matthew 23, Jesus scorned the scribes and Pharisees, calling them “hypocrites” time and time again. In verse 33, Jesus called them a generation of vipers. He said “You *serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell?” That word “generation” in the original Greek was the word “γέννημα” (GHEN-ee-mah), which really means “offspring”. In verse 36, the word “generation” was the Greek word “γενεά” (ghen-eh-AH), which means “generation” as in a reference of time. In verse 35, Jesus said they killed the righteous Abel and the prophet Zechariah. Who killed Abel? Cain did. Whose offspring killed Zechariah? Cain’s. Whose offspring would later kill Jesus? Cain’s. In verse 15, Jesus accused them of recruiting new converts (proselytes) and “making them twice the child of hell you are”.

Now we know by the original languages that Cain fathered the Kenites and that it was their offspring Jesus was contending with and later put Him to death. The only question is whether or not Satan fathered Cain, and to me there is no question. Again the original language pointed out that Eve had twins, and we know that God told the serpent that his seed would have enmity with the woman’s seed, separating the children. We know that Cain killed Abel because he was tormented by Abel’s good works, fulfilling God’s prophecy accurately. Accepting that Satan fathered Cain, we know this prophecy continued on through Jesus’ time. Cain killed Abel, and Jesus said the scribes and Pharisees killed Abel, and called them serpents and the offspring of vipers. Is the viper a serpent? Wasn’t Satan the serpent?

Satan’s children are the Kenites, so therefore they have the same traits. They are the ones Jesus spoke of in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, saying they were those who say they are Jews, but are not. The traits are being power-hungry, since Satan’s fall was because of his quest for power. They are great at lying, and convincing people who are lost that they have their best interests at heart, and hide their true intentions of seeking totalitarian power (the serpent was subtle and able to convince two people who actually spoke to God to disobey Him). They would also have enmity towards real Israelites, Israel, and Christians because they are God’s elect race and Christians believe in His only begotten Son.

Just because Kenites are descendants of Satan, that does not set their futures in stone. We know that Moses’ wife was a Kenite and he was a man of God. I’m sure because of this and her father being a priest that she was a righteous woman as her father was also a righteous Kenite. A Kenite woman named Jael (Yael in Hebrew) ended the battle between the coalition of Kenites and Israelites against the Canaanites by offering the Canaanite army captain safety, but instead killed him. I would say she was a Godly woman. Their souls were created by God and they were Godly.

We all have our predispositions because we are human. We all have our traits and our tendencies to sin. If a Kenite decides to be sinful, these will be their motivations. Karl Marx was one of these who thought it would be great to foment and then use the anxiety of the have-nots against the haves to force the haves to his side. His book promised visions of social justice but all he wanted was totalitarian power. He knew by getting covetous working class people to intimidate, and if necessary kill the rich, he would force the rich to come to him which would secure an oligarchy. He wasn’t able to do these things, but Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Castro, and a slew of others used his idea with great success. People really thought their marxist leaders were really interested in social justice, but got anything but. They also thought that murder could lead to harmony. Their enemies were whoever their marxist leaders said were their enemies. Inevitably they realized they were fooled, but it was too late. The rich who survived stayed rich. Their leaders could care less about social justice despite their heartfelt speeches identifying with the plight of the working class.

Now we have George Soros, a marxist who called 1944 the happiest year of his life while a member of the Judenrat where most of his fellow Hungarian Jews were killed, including neighbors and relatives. He said his mother was anti-Semitic. His father was part of a movement to make esperanto the world language. Soros said that he doesn’t identify with Jews or Israel and has talked of his “Messiah complex”. He has gone from country to country dividing people in every way possible and used the media, youth, and working class people to achieve regime change and got richer doing it. He has spoken of wanting to humble the United States because they are in the way of forming a New World Order. He makes sure to use class warfare through the media outlets he supports and his greatest disciple is Barack Obama. “… and you shall bruise his heel.”

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79 comments on “THE DEFINITIVE WORK ON KENITES, CAIN, AND THE SEED OF SATAN

  1. Mrs. AL says:

    Wow, Jesse, this is quite informative. Thanx so much for your hard work in putting all your essays together.

    It’s amazing what we can learn from history, eh?

    Take a bow!

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Thank you. Yes it’s amazing what history can reveal, but it’s more amazing what God reveals through His Word when one does some digging. It was because of the Bible that I looked past Soros’ “liberal” views to see his real intentions. Despite the causes he champions and the media he supports pushes, their reasons for their positions are all lies intent on covering up their real intention. As marxists say, “the issue is never the issue”. God bless. By the way, I’ve been off facebook a while and it was a long, long time before that where I actually looked at anything on there.

      • Mrs. AL says:

        Yea, when I was first saved I kind of forgot for awhile that the Word is also filled with history. Not sure why, but I did. You have put this together so well.

        And you are correct, sometimes the issue isn’t the issue and one has to put the puzzle pieces together.

        FYI, I have not been on facebook for years. I don’t do social media. A quirk — haha

        Trust all is well with you, Jesse.

      • Jesse Norman says:

        I didn’t know who among the old TH crowd was on there. I got off all social media myself. I’m doing well enough, but some issues are creeping up.

      • Jesse, Of course they have a choice, That was not what I was saying, A father eating a sour grape will not set his son’s teeth on edge, Unless the son eats the SAME sour grape.The whole reason for Christ is that everyone can choose their own spiritual destiny. and I do believe if you choose to deny God repeatedly you are a tool of satan & thereby a tool to kenites, bringing the curse upon yourself,
        There are only 2 sides to this battle, and regardless of what degree, a person is either for God or against Him.

    • Moses’ father in law was not a kenite, he was from the land of the kenites, he was a full blooded Midianite and a priest.

      • Jesse Norman says:

        I just wrote here a couple of verses with mistranslations that tie Jethro/Hobab to not only Kenites, but Cain by blood and you ignored them. “Now Heber the Cain, which was of the children of Hobab, the father in law of Moses…” Heber was a descendant of Hobab and of Cain. If this isn’t conclusive, then nothing is. By the way, how is someone a Kenite for the area they live in when they were nomadic?

        God bless Pastor Murray. I hope he is enjoying his stay in heaven. I do fine on my own and need no help. God bless you too.

  2. Mrs. AL says:

    Don’t hesitate to let us know what prayer needs you have, Jesse.

  3. John Brown says:

    I think I have mentioned it before elsewhere on your blog, but, Cain himself knew that he was the seed of Satan because of the flip answer he gave God.

    Genesis 4:9 (KJV)
    9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper?

    A brother’s keeper was someone that went into the widow of his brother, who had no children, to give her children to continue his brother’s seed line. We frequently refer to “onan” as a nasty habit, but, him not doing his duty as a brother’s keeper is why God killed him.

    So, Cain, like his father was being flip, while twisting the meaning of the law. So, when some liberal goes on about being “your brother’s keeper”, they are literally saying you should go in and lie with that person’s wife. Which is basically committing adultery in most situations.

    > remember, Noah was told to gather two of every kind

    The word in the KJV is “flesh” and when you look it up, it is basar, aka man flesh. Noah took two of every man flesh, two of every unclean animal, and seven pairs of clean animals.

    > His book promised visions of social justice

    Marx, got his “social” justice from Andrew Jackson Davis. Who in turned spawned Edgar Cayce, prohibition, Star Trek (Spock’s words lifted almost verbatim), Star Gate Command 1 (which is a TV show pitting Professor Origin (ori) disciples vs. the true followers of Andrew Jackson Davis (the ascended). The “star gate” and ascending through levels is directly from his book.

    The “social justice” promoted by the Roman Catholic Church and the likes of people such as Rep. Cao, the only republican to vote for ObamaCare, has it’s roots in the book “The Principles of Nature – Her Divine Revelations and A Voice to Mankind”.

    I have thought a lot on this man and have determined he was probably a Kenite that started off just as a con man. Because he infected so many people with the social justice and equating animals as equal to trees, it is unreal. When Obama said he would not talk to the President of BP, the reason he gave came directly from the above book and what AJD said about rich people and bankers.

    If you have a strong enough Christian mind and can withstand the heresy, then I suggest reading the book, I had a very tough time reading it because it bothered me much. Worse, there are three books of the trash.

  4. John Brown says:

    I should have said “and equating animals as equal to men”.

  5. Phillip A. Conrad says:

    Here is more food for thought: 1. on Cain and, 2.Kenite as scribes.

    1. Cain was a prodoct of Satan having sex with Eve! Now since Satan is a fallen angle this would make Cain what is called a Nephilim, ” a giant “, and not many people even think about this or know of this hiden information! ( truth ) GOD has revealed this through studing his WORD!

    2.Kenite + Cain = Canaanite: These are the people who through time have intrefeared in the written word and,” ( WORD )”, of GOD! Kenites are scribes or writters they have put some word in the bible which are intended to interfear with GOD’S truth and WORD! Remember this is a long faught fight of Satan against GOD! Satan does not want the real truth to been seen or heard so when you read the BIBLE ask for JESUS to grant you wisdom and you will see the truth in GOD,S WORD!

    Posted by; Phil Conrad

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Although many Kenites settled in Canaan, there is no relationship between the words. Canaan was the son of Ham. The land he would later inhabit was named after him, as Edom was named after Esau.

      • Phillip A. Conrad says:

        Yes I was refuring to the area of the land where some settled. I did not state that to well. But what I was making a point of is that they are all evil in their works.
        Thank you for my correction Phil Conrad.

      • Jesse Norman says:

        They are not all evil, as I have shown some in the Bible who were not. You’re welcome.

      • John Brown says:

        The Kenyans acknowledge that Kenya was originally settled by the people that spoke the Cush language, descendants of HAM, Noah’s son. They married into the black race. Nubians (which is tied to the tribe Luo) wandered (another name for Cain) to Egypt, Sudan, Uganda, and to what is now Kenya.

        These people, the Kenites, then sold the Cushites into slavery to their white brother in laws that settled the USA.

        The 1st president of Kenya, who went to theology school in the UK so he knew who he was, he changed his name to get elected (sound like Obama?) from his “Egyptian” one which meant “silent warrier” to a more Cushite one.

        They call the Kenites that look like Obama “afro-arabs” in Kenya.

        The SOP of Cain never changes and Obama wandered just like Cain.

      • Glad you see that Jesse, the Nephilim are not kenites, satan used the Adamic seed (Eve)so no-one would recognise his children by sight, the word rib is a mistranslation, the origin of the Hebrew word is (curve) as in Helix curve, God used Adam’s DNA to make Even, the translators or the authors of Genesis did not know what DNA was, Christ said you will know them by their works. there is much confusion about the kenites, but from what I see you have it correct.
        please find me on twitter if you reply to this, as I cannot navigate this page to find my previous comments.
        The canaanites as I said in Feb, are the product of an incestuous affair between Ham & his mother.
        To “uncover your father’s nakedness” is a Hebraism (figure of speech) that means to have sexual relations with your mother.This is largely insignificant and a mere distraction from the kenites
        I also believe that we will not know for sure what our genealogy is in the final days,
        Christ came to separate the children of God from the children of satan, the wheat from the tares.Malachi 4:6 confirms this.
        4:6 “And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
        I agree they are discernible by their need for power, but I hasten to add they will not prosper from the work of their hands. they have no skills, no talents, no creativity, instead they use the talents of others to prosper from.
        God promised cain he could not make the land produce it’s fruit. so the kenites must rule over others in order make their fortunes, They lie, manipulate, and cheat the talented and feed off of them like parasites. but like parasites they do not kill their host. thats, until the host threatens to expose them,
        Micheal Jackson, Amy Winehouse, and many others are dead for that reason.DMX threatened to expose them and they destroyed his reputation.
        The worse part is; they ARE in the church and spreading lies & mistranslations of scripture, like rature & Easter (Ishtar)<a pagan fertility goddess. the traditions of ishtar are practiced by millions on the High sabbath, grove worship, sexual orgies were their tradition.
        Speaking of sabbath it has been used to promote sun worship. Yes, Christ became our Sabbath (rest) but to change the 7th day to sunday is an abomination to God IMO
        Thanks again for your diligence on this, & look me up on twitter or Facebook as I am interested in your reply.

      • Jesse Norman says:

        I’m sorry, but I am not on social media. Your interpretation of ‘tsay-LAW’ is just an assumption, of which I do not agree. It’s most common Hebrew definition is curved, but from ‘side’ or ‘flank’, so I don’t agree with the DNA helix part, but I could be wrong. As I said, it’s just an assumption. I also don’t agree with your belief about Kenites not being able to grow plants. It is true God gave Cain this curse, but nowhere is it written that his children also have this curse. That is another assumption.

        My interpretation of Malachi 4:6 is that in order to come to Him, one must come as a child, meaning to be humbled. Jesus said this also. The last part “for fear I come and smite the earth with a curse” corroborates this, implying there is a choice to make. What choice from your interpretation does a Kenite have? Can a Kenite change his bloodline? As for the Sunday thing goes, being that Israel is ahead of us in time, their last day of the week does fall on the same day as Sunday. I don’t know if that is where we decided to have Sunday become our sabbath or not, because I haven’t studied it. Thanks for the comment.

  6. For excellent Bible studies go to Watchman Bible Study Group, it is the site of Nick Goggin a retired Chicago Police officer and Christian scholar/teacher. Also visit The Shepherds Chapel family Bible study with Pastor Dennis Murray (Pastor Arnold Murray just passed away a couple of weeks ago.)They are by far the best Bible teachers alive today and I mean that with all my heart. It is truly a wonderful learning experience. Well worth the time. God bless.

    • John Brown says:

      > (Pastor Arnold Murray just passed away a couple of weeks ago

      Today just became one of the saddest days in my life upon learning that.

      I was hoping Pastor Murray could hang on until the return of the false messiah, who is coming very soon, because he wanted to see that day. Obviously, God had other plans.

      I was wondering why my local SCN 5 am show on Revelations had stopped as I was looking forward to go over it again verse by verse. It was because of Pastor Murray, because I did not believe him (I trust, but, verify) about the dinosaur in Job 40, that I took everything I could back to Hebrew. Then I found out the word “grass” meant “thatch – the grass used on the roof” and not the grass on the ground, to imply the height of his neck while eating greens. The description only gets richer from there.

      • Sha says:

        I was so sad to about pastor Murrays passing. I tried very hard not to watch him. Everything he was saying was not what I had thought was the truth. But God keep pulling me back every day. Now I can’t get enough of his teaching. I pray other teachers and preachers. Would tell the truth when about what is in the Bible. Praise God! He is my love

  7. Judg 1:16
    16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses’ father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people. (KJV)

    children: Hebrew word #1121 ben (bane); from 1129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc., [like 1, 251, etc.]):

    Moses’ father in law is referred to as ‘Kenite’ because he was from the land of the Kenites, he was a stranger in a strange land:

    Exod 18:1-3
    1 When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses’ father in law, heard of all that God had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that the LORD had brought Israel out of Egypt;
    2 Then Jethro, Moses’ father in law, took Zipporah, Moses’ wife, after he had sent her back,
    3 And her two sons; of which the name of the one was Gershom; for he said, I have been an alien in a strange land: (KJV)

    Exod 3:1
    1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. (KJV)

    To be a priest of Midian, Moses’ father in law needed to be a full blood Midianite. The Tribe of Midian descended from Abraham, not Cain (thus not a Kenite):

    Gen 25:1-2
    1 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.
    2 And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.
    (KJV)

    It is just like when an African becomes a German citizen, the African does not change race, he is still African (black) but his children are German citizens and properly referred to as Germans, not Africans. By the same token, Moses’ father in law lived among the Kenites, but by birth he was a Midianite, a Midianite Priest even.

    I hope that helps. God bless!

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Where does it say one had to be a Midianite, as in a child of Abraham to be a priest? What of Melchizedek who became a priest to Abraham himself who obviously couldn’t be from Abraham? There could be NO MAN called a Kenite for the area they lived in because Kenites were nomadic. There was no land named after Kenites. Your contention about one being identified for their geographical area is the opposite of what the facts show in this case. One can be called a Midianite because of the area they lived in because there was a land called Midian, but no land was named after Kenites. Both of the bigger areas that had Kenites were Midian and Canaan, neither of which were named after Kenites. How can a child be of Cain and Hobab/Jethro and not be a Kenite by blood? That is what is written: “Now Heber the *Cain* (not Kenite, so you can’t use that ‘area’ contention), who was of the CHILDREN OF HOBAB…” Those few words conclusively states that Kenites were from Cain, Heber was not just a Kenite by area if that was even possible, but a direct descendant of Cain, and that he was also a child of Moses’ father in law. If you and many are right that there were people called Kenites by area, that still wouldn’t include this case because it didn’t say in the Hebrew “Heber the Kenite”, but “Heber the CAIN”. Him being a stranger in a strange land describes Kenites to a tee because they were nomadic. He was a stranger in Midian. This also proves my point further because if he was a Midianite by blood, he would not be a stranger in the land of Midian.

  8. EyeonGod says:

    Hi Jesse! I do agree with you that one does not have to be” a Midianite, as in a child of Abraham to be a priest”…however, they may have to be a full-blooded Medianite to be a ‘Medianite Priest’… serving God the way which Abraham had passed down to them… pretty much like Aaron was appointed to be the priest of the Israelites, of the tribe of Levi, which tells us that Aaron’s lineage was also pure as to his pedigree.

    As I documented earlier in my first comment on another topic on here, Median was a son of Abraham by his second wife Keturah, Genesis 25:1-2. That in itself documents to me, I would think…that Jethro aka Hobab, Raguel, is a Medianite by lineage, not a Kenite. Numbers 10:29 states: “And Moses said unto Hobab (Heber’s grandfather), the son of Raguel the Midianite, Moses’ father in law”…and of the same priesthood that Abraham taught in his household to his sons, and their sons…the teachings of the One True God, YaHoVaH.

    It would seem that the descendants of Cain (Strong’s H7014 – Qayin) were occupying the Land before Jethro / Hobab took up residence there. This Midian priest took up residence in the land close to this sacred mountain, and that is why he may be referred to as a Kenite. The shepherds at that well were sons of Qayin, and it was their land and their well at that particular time period, for I agree that the Qayin’s sons were Nomads, they were just present in the Land there first…before… Hobab.

    You may also recall that Moses’ wife Zipporah and the rest of her family were strangers in this land that they had met the Kenites occupying,first…and they were supposed to wait until the flocks of these Kenite shepherds, were watered first also…..Wouldn’t that help clarify why Moses intervened when he happened to stumble upon Jethro’s seven daughters attempting to draw water out of a well to water their father’s sheep, that some ‘ungentlemanly’ shepherds were preventing them from doing their chores, blocking access to the well while they watered their own sheep first? Moses defended the daughters, driving back the bothersome shepherds and chivalrously watered the sheep himself, because the sons of Qayin were the first occupiers!
    Just a little food for thought!
    Peace!

  9. EyeonGod says:

    Jesse, here is another bit of food for thought regarding Moses’ wife Zipporah being a Midianite from the lineage of Abraham through his son Median which he had with his second wife Keturah… rather than they being descendants of Cain!

    Exodus 4:24 “And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him (Moses), and sought to kill him.”

    Now this was because Moses did not circumcise his son with Zipporah…How do you suppose that Zipporah knew exactly what she needed to do, to try and save Moses’ life, if in fact circumcision was not taught to her, by Jethro / Hobab, even though he had no male children in his household? He had seven girls in his family, and as a descendant of Abraham, Jethro may have taught his female children regarding circumcision, should his girls ever have given birth to male children. Obviously Zipporah didn’t really know exactly how important that was to God until that moment, but it was Zipporah whom conducted the circumcision herself. Would you consider that this may also prove that Jethro was indeed a descendant of Median, Abraham’s son with Keturah… especially with him being recorded as a Medianite priest? And how come God did not forbid this marriage to children of Cain, if Hobab and his children were truly Kenites by lineage?

    Now, regarding what you have quoted in your work above: “God told Satan that his seed and the woman’s seed would have enmity toward eachother, saying “he shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel”

    I also undertsand this first prophecy in the Bible to mean…Satan, through his offspring (his seed Cain) came the Kenites, the Fake Jews who were Scribes and Pharisees that Christ spoke about in John 8:44 Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 who called for the crucifixion of Christ thus bruising Christ’s Heel by the nailing of his feet to the Cross, but obviously Christ is risen, so Satan could not bring about the death of His Soul, for Christ defeated death (Satan)…and only God can cause a soul to perish! Besides, Christ was God in the flesh! The death of Satan has been sealed at the end of the thousand year (Millenium) reign with Christ, just as prophesied, when Satan is released thereafter, one final time for a short season, in which God allows him to carry out the negative parts of His plan in testing His children. Soon after, Satan’s soul and spirit body will be turned to ashes from within, as it is written…by God’s Consuming Lake of Fire! He will be no more in existence, blotted out completely, even from the memory of the Overcomers! That’s pretty much final, no more Satan ever again…that’s the Lethal Blow by Christ, the Seed Who came through “the woman” Eve who bruises Satan’s head! Just sharing another bit of food for thought! But still wide open to keep on learning!
    God Bless!

    • Jesse Norman says:

      I will reply to both of your comments at once. The question about Zipporah and the circumcision is a very insightful one. Being that Jethro was a priest, he was wise in the ways of God. He must have also known of the covenant with Abraham also.

      Being that Kenites had no real homeland of their own, for they were nomadic, they were always the strangers in other lands. Even when they entered Judea with the Judeans, they made sure not to claim any lot of any of its territory.

      The points I always make is that no one would be known as a Kenite because of the area they inhabit because no land was named after Kenites. Even though Midian was a son of Abraham, there was a land named Midian. If one lived in Midian but was of a different nation, they can be known as a Midianite.

      As the mistranslations I pointed out show, Jethro/Hobab was of Cain. The Hebrew specifically mentions Jethro being from Cain, not Kenite. Because Jethro is mentioned being from Cain, it must be a blood relation. “Now Heber the Cain, who was of the children of Hobab the father in law of Moses…” I just go with what is written. I don’t say “well I don’t like the thought that Moses’ father in law was of Cain, so I won’t accept it no matter what”, not that I am accusing you of such a thing. You seem to be quite astute in your learning. It’s just when something is staring me in the face, such as this is, I accept it for what it is. I have put forth this question to many who take exception to my doctrine, and no one has answered me because it can’t be answered. How can someone be known as a Kenite with no land being named after them?

      As far as the bruising of the heel goes, it was a saying about one’s actions. It is the complete opposite of the law “do not muzzle the ox while he’s threshing”, which means “do not punish/hinder the one who is doing good work”. I don’t think Satan will be completely erased from existence, but will feel the torment of damnation forever.

      I will get to your other comment(s) when I can. I am not feeling well. Just to let you know, the other guy you spoke of is a white supremacist. God bless!

  10. EyeonGod says:

    Jesse ~ Continuing on the topic of Jethro and his daughter Zipporah being of Cain (Kenite)…in your own words below you admitted:

    “Being that Jethro was a priest, he was wise in the ways of God. He must have also known of the covenant with Abraham also.”

    And rightly so I would agree…for Jethro learned well from Abraham his father. Jethro was a man of God, and a descendant of Abraham by his second wife Keturah, whose son was named “Median.” That will explain him being qualified for being a Medianite Priest. So unless Jethro was like the Scribes and Pharisees who acted like ‘holy Joes’ but were of their father the devil (Kenites)… as our Lord would point out in John 8:44…I would say that Jethro and his daughters were Medianites, as in descendants of Median, Abraham’s son, but lived among the Kenites who occupied the land of Median when they moved there. So Jethro was Kenite by geographical location *only*…simply for living amongst the sons of Cain, who were the first occupiers of the land Though they were Nomadic children of Cain, they were still in Median when Jethro and his seven daughters lived there!

    Do you truly believe, as important a role that Moses had as God’s servant and *Law-giver*…that He will allow Moses to marry a child of Cain without objection and still allow him to appear with our Lord and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration? God never even ask Moses to repent for marrying into the children of Cain, but God met Moses to kill him for not circumcising his son with Zipporah, who knew exactly what she needed to do to save Moses’ life! Does that sound like a child of Cain to you, or a daughter of Abraham who must have passed that information on to her father Jethro, who in turn taught the importance of circumcising their male children to Zipporah? Little more food for thought!

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Again I ask, how can one be of Cain, which is how it is written in the Hebrew, and not be of the blood of Cain? It could have said “Kenite”, but someone mistranslated it. The use of the word “Cain”, as I pointed out, rules out any argument that one is a Kenite for the area they live in. I don’t even see how one can be a Kenite by the area they lived in since they were nomadic. I have not seen one other example where people were called a different name for the area they lived in that belonged to nomads. That’s a bit of an oxymoron, isn’t it? God bless.

  11. EyeonGod says:

    Jesse ~ Just making a correction in the last paragraph, question almost at the end of comment! Desperately in need of clarification there! 🙂 That should read:

    “Does that sound like a child of Cain to you, or *more like a daughter of Abraham who must have had that information passed down from Abraham to Median, to Jethro, who in turn taught Zipporah and his daughters the importance of circumcising their male children as a covenant with God YHVH?*

    Little tired now, no edit button here either! 🙂

  12. EyeonGod says:

    Jesse ~ Please document where you found that the word “kenite” as in Heber the :”Kenite”…was a mistranslation and should be Heber the *Cain* instead.

    Kenites are descendants of Cain anyway, but be that as it may, enlighten me a bit here.

    Strong’s word for Kenite is: H7017 – Qeyniy: Member of the tribe of Kajin – Kenite. from the root word: Strong’s H7014 – Qayin: Spear

    Heber is called a “Kenite” simply because his great grandfather had lived in the land of the Kenites. This is the same situation that exist when the Kenites are called Jews, because they live in Judea with Judah, and in time became identified with Judah by geographic location.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      What land was named after Kenites, or any other nomadic tribe? I have asked many times, but no one has answered. How can someone be named a Kenite for the area they lived in since they were nomadic. Now there were Kenites who were also Canaanites, since there was a land called Canaan. Where do I get the “Cain” from? I wrote of it right here in this post. Judges 4:11, the word “Kenite” was mistranslated. It was “Cain” (Qayin), not Kenite in Hebrew.

  13. EyeonGod says:

    Jesse ~ I’ve failed to see the difference in the term Cain / Kenite here, except that Kenites are descendants of Cain, and wherever they occupied at the time of writing, was identified with them. In this case, this land was where Mount Horeb, the place where Moses received the Ten Commandments was located…in Median.

    As I stated before: “This is the same situation that exist when the Kenites are called Jews, because they live in Judea with Judah, and in time became identified with Judah by geographic location” only…*not* by Lineage.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Then, unlike what you say, you do not want to learn new things. You have a Strong’s, so you saw the mistranslation, but you don’t want to accept it because it proves you wrong.

      • EyeonGod says:

        Jesse ~ Have you ever stopped to think for just one moment..that God would allow Moses, His Law giver, Savior, Prophet, Priest, a man who played such an important role in God’s Plan…to actually marry and bear children with a descendant of Cain? I strongly suggest that you do! Moses appeared on the Mount of Transfiguration with Christ and Elijah, so we know for a fact that he made it to the right side of Paradise! That in itself speaks volumes. I just hope that you will one day see that!

      • Jesse Norman says:

        Is there not one righteous Kenite? I ask this because God even said that Cain, the first Kenite would be accepted if he did well. I believe God let Moses marry a righteous descendant of Cain.

      • EyeonGod says:

        Jesse ~ Regarding the word “kenite” being interpreted *Cain* as you have suggested…..You’ve stated that: “but you don’t want to accept it because it proves you wrong.”

        This is what the Strong’s shows for the word “Kenite” as it is used in Judges 4:11…and yes, I accept it as is. I do not see any mention of Cain there, even though Kenites are descendants of Cain. Kenite is the word that belongs in that verse.

        Strong’s H7017 – Qeyniy

        I. Kenite = “smiths”

        A. the tribe from which the father-in-law of Moses was a member and which lived in the area between southern Palestine and the mountains of Sinai

  14. EyeonGod says:

    Jesse ~ for the sake of clarity, let me refer to the Mount where Moses received the Ten Commandments as Mount Sinai.

    Mountain of God, Mt. Horeb, Mt. Sinai and Mt. Paran are all names for Mt. Sinai I have learned, but be that as it may…I do not wish to confuse anyone, so I step in the line of caution!

  15. EyeonGod says:

    Well Jesse, I will agree that a Kenite can choose to live righteously and will then be called a child of God, but I will disagree with you as far as Jethro and his daughters being biological children of Cain! I’ve already discussed my belief that Jethro was a descendant of Abraham by his second wife Keturah, through his son Median, which qualifies him to be a Medianite priest as recorded in the Scriptures! Until I am led to feel any differently about this…we will respect each other’s belief.

  16. Slim2None says:

    Kenites are Canaanites not Cainites. Cain was no nephilim his father was Adam. Ebe received a son from Yahweh not Satan. Had Cain been a nephilim God wouldn’t have put a mark of protection on him nor avenge his death 7 times over. Furthermore, Satan would be locked in the abyss if Cain were his son just like the other sons of God. Cain was a spiritual child of his not physical. He used the watchers to procreate for him and they ended up in the abyss. Satan knew if he bore a child back then he would be in the bottomless pit right now. Canaan fathered the Kenites not Cain.

    • Slim2None says:

      The seed of the serpent came in the days of Jared through the Watchers not in Eden through Satan and Eve.

      • Jesse Norman says:

        Not according to the original Hebrew.

      • EyeonGod says:

        Slim2 ~ Show a second witness to that in the King James Version of the Bible, regarding “Watchers” and what you have stated there. Show me where that bit of info aligns with God’s Truths.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      I just wrote here that Cain was the first Kenite and used scripture to prove it by correcting mistranslations. It does not get any clearer than Judges 4:11 and Numbers 24:21-22. According to the Hebrew, Kenites come from Cain. I don’t come to my conclusions by what God may allow, but by what is written. He has His reasons for allowing Satan to do what he did. He allowed the descendants of the nephilim to live, because the Anakim and Rephaim were both giants and lived well after the flood. I wouldn’t base my comclusions on what God may or may not allow, because you don’t know what He may use them for. What Satan did was much worse than what the angels who married human women did, yet as you pointed out, he is not in the bottomless pit yet because God is still using him to fulfill His will. Canaan had nothing to do with Kenites, other than Kenites lived among Canaanites. Kenites fought against the Canaanites.

    • EyeonGod says:

      Slim2 ~ Show me where Cain is written in Adam’s genealogy. Abel was not in Adam’s genealogy because Cain murdered him before he had any progeny, that’s understood.

      Canaan is the father of the Canaanites *not* Kenites. Cain is the father of the Kenites. Back up your claim with Scripture.

    • Canaanites were the product of a son of Noah (Ham) having sex with his mother, Noah’s wife, to “uncover your father’s nakedness” is to have sex with your mother, Noah banished Canaan because he could not stand to look at him.
      Cain is NOT in Adam’s genealogy, why do you think they covered their privates?, The Hebrew manuscripts say Eve “continued” in labor, Cain & Abel were fraternal twins, read 2 Corinthians 11:3 Eve was “beguiled” this means wholly seduced in the Greek.
      Jesus also Identified them in John 8:44.
      The mark that God put on Cain when he left the garden was the work of his hands & his way of thinking, they have a different mindset, they do things not from (aw-hab’) outward, un-requiring love but out of (a-hab-aw’) possessive or desiring love. ahab is unconditional ahabaw is out of fear & need. this makes them feared, & thereby protected, see Genesis 4:15.
      Who said Cain was a nephillim? I didn’t see that anywhere, Nephillim are fallen angels, they came to earth & mated with the daughters of Adam to create a race of giants.
      God destroyed the land by flood to eliminate the offspring of these angels,& prevent them from corrupting the bloodline.
      Christ was of a pure blood line as to fulfill the law and prophecy.

  17. This is great!! I learned satan had sex with Eve long before I knew what this race had done in scripture and is doing in the world today, Being raised in a church “clothed in purple & scarlet” I ALWAYS knew didn’t eat an apple & when I bought my concordance 25 yrs ago that was the first lie I debunked. since then I’ve been studying KJV in the original languages. Thank you for your work and not trying to “sell” it to people but offering it for free!

    • Jesse Norman says:

      In order to gain a good amount of wisdom, one must study the Bible in its original languages, no matter what tool one uses. There are too many mistranslations in the KJV, and most of the newer ones are worse. These mistranslations cover too much of the real meaning of the Word, and raises questions impossible to answer. Thanks for the compliment. I am not allowed to sell such things. I was given my understanding without a price so I can freely give.

  18. Bob Eberly says:

    Perfect. I’ve been listing to Pastor Arnold Murray for 6 plus yrs. Opened my eyes and what I hear from you is same. I praise GOD for correcting bad eyesight .l’m not all bright so I’m blessed when I’ve been given this insight.THANKS Bob

  19. David says:

    Awesome article definitely learned some things here. So the kenites weaseled their way into the Israelite’s bloodline through mosses? That would give them an advantage of being close. I like the points about the Pharisees, they must have been Kenites. Ok Murray taught that American people are the bloodline from Abraham because the 10 tribes of the north of Israel came across the Caucasus Mountains to eventually settle here do you believe this? If so that was only 10 of the 12 tribes where are the other 2 tribes and why do they not look like Americans? This would also question who are the Jews? I do not believe the Jews are kenites and never have even when Murray taught this. Your view of them being someone close hits the point I believe. Esau had sex with kentie women which descendants are in Russia. The kenites in our race mingled in would eventually fully look like us, but the ones Esau would have had sex with would have looked like the actually kenite race. So would the original kenite race look like Russians? Are the Muslims kenites? I know nothing about governments but I see now I need to learn them quickly. Maybe the key to not being fooled (one of the elect) is being able to spot out a kenite, which could be why it’s the most argued topic. Recently I have decided not to put so much effort into piecing together the events that will show the end to spot the antichrist but rather learn from the bible how to live a truly righteous life, I believe when he gets here he will be using 100 percent of his brain to our 10 percent. He will know the bible inside and out and could write it perfectly off his memory which will allow him to twist everything and say that’s what I mean by this verse or that verse you guys translated wrong now follow me. But if you know everything that is righteous you will spot him when he twist something around. Dunno but maybe this will help me. Love this article, also do you have something over the Key of David?

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Some Pharisees were Kenites because Kenites were attracted to this position of power, but Paul, too, was a Pharisee, and he was of the tribe of Benjamin. To say they weaseled their way into the blood of the Israelites is a bit harsh, but yeah they became part of Israel after they helped. They didn’t go through Moses and his bloodline, even though his wife was a Kenite because the line of inheritance lies through males.

      I vehemently disagree with the take that Americans are from Abraham because the northern tribes went through the Caucasus Mountains. There is too much evidence that there were caucasian people in Europe long before the northern tribes went there.

      There are a few classifications of Jews that one must consider. There is the tribe of Judah, which the term “yehudiy” came from, which turned into Jew later on. There are the people who lived in Judea, which included different tribes and even Kenites. Kenites did live in Judea, especially in Jerusalem. Lastly, there are the Israelites whose religion is Judaism. When Jesus said they were not Jews, He meant they were not of the bloodline of the Israelites. Even though there was inevitable mixing, the line of descendants lies with the males, including for the Kenites.

      Muslims are not Kenites, but they have worked together and will continue to do so much more. Even those who are not Kenites, but are swayed by marxism have and will work with Muslim extremists. From the Munich attack to the Arab Spring revolutions, marxists and Muslims have partnered up because they both believe in a one world totalitarian system.

      The key of David is the everlasting kingdom. Jesus has this key that no man can open or shut. The key was the covenant God made with David that through him will come the Saviour. That is all that it is. Hope this helps. God bless.

      • David says:

        Have to ask this now when the bible talks about the House of Israel is that talking about America? Then the House of Judea being Israel?

      • Jesse Norman says:

        The direct house of Israel are the twelve tribes, but I do look at Christians as being part of the house of Israel since it was Israel that was chosen by God to birth the Messiah. The house of Judah would be the Judeans and tribes that lived in Judea.

  20. Carrie Moe says:

    If God is the only one that can create a soul then how could satan have a seed-line? did he infect Cain’s dna somehow?

    • Jesse Norman says:

      The souls of this creation are much older than this flesh is. Genesis 6 talks about how angels lusted after human women and had children with them. The book of Enoch delved much deeper than what is written in Genesis 6.

      • Carrie Moe says:

        Yeah i know the book of Enoch from the little I’ve read seems pretty interesting. I’ve never read all of it though. But i mean how did Satan infect Eve in order for her to give birth to to a Cain to be in his iamge? And i believe the fallen angels only mated with Cain’s bloodline because they had compatible DNA.

      • Jesse Norman says:

        If the angels had compatible DNA with only Cain’s descendants, then Satan couldn’t have fathered Cain because he was an angel as well. His standing may have changed after his fall, but his flesh did not. We are compatible with angels because we are made in their image. To answer your question, Satan had sex with Eve. Cain wasn’t in the image of Satan, as in being e a human version of him, but he did have his DNA, and his traits. As I wrote here, we all have our human flaws. If a descendant of Cain goes in the way of evil, their traits would be similar to Satan’s.

  21. Carrie Moe says:

    But satan started the ball rolling. He infected Eve’s offspring before the baby was even born. He introduced the bad seed, set it into motion. Plus there is no scripture that refers to Cain as being a giant. But yet when the fallen angels mated with human women, they produced giants. That’s also another reason why i feel it was Cain’s bloodline. That bloodline was already corrupt, but when you add a mating with a fallen angel, it produced giants. (the Nephilim)

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Just because it wasn’t written that Cain was a giant, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t one. It’s also quite possible that the nephilim giants were giant because God simply wanted to set them apart from men. If we are made in their image, why would intermixing with angels cause giants biologically? Just something to think about.

  22. Carrie Moe says:

    Fallen angels took on bad dna after the fall. They would only be compatible with similar dna. (Cain’s bloodline). And who says we are made in the image of angels? Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      It doesn’t say anywhere that they took on DNA that was bad. All angels have incorruptible flesh, meaning undecaying. No angels were changed.

      God also said “Let us make man in our image”. Angels were in the presence of men many times in the Bible where the men didn’t know they were angels. We look the same as angels do.

  23. Carrie Moe says:

    Common sense tells you that the angels that fell became corrupt and evil. Angels can also take on the appearance of humans or pretty much anything for that manner. Angels mating with humans is going after strange flesh. They were not meant to mate.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Angels that fell became corrupt and evil? What made them fall beforehand? Our flesh and the flesh of the angels are not the same, but look the same. Enoch saw angels in their realm, including archangels, so they had no need to be changed to look like men. Why would angels lust after human women if they didn’t look like us? God would create men to look like Him, but the angels, which are higher than we are, do not?

  24. Good grief! Y’all sure know how to complicate an issue.

  25. Arvin from the tribe of Judah says:

    Your about sick as they come must be a child of Esau

  26. Carlos says:

    Very important information brother, i have been studying and searching the sames people, and i note de this; that ESAU HAD the same qualities of the kenites, just exacly the same. For example Esau and jacob were fighting each other in the mother Sarah woomb, also jacob came out holding the heele of Esau, also in 2 EZDRAS 6:8-10 apocrypha the Lord explain to ezdras the role of Esau. Also the Kenites dwelling (numbers 24:21-22) have the same descriptión as the Esau (Edom) in the book of Obadiah (prophecy against Esau’s seed). Also The Lord reject esau and also the Edomites were forced to convertion and be part of the israelites in the maccabees wars. Also Christ confronted them in john 8:30-43 they answer Christ that they are from Abrahams seed, but not jacob and Esau came from abraham and from isaac and also Esau never was slave for not one. And i think the kenites and the edomites join forces in some moment in time, because esau maried a kenites woman and also a iahmalites dauther. And also in Esther ( hamman) was an agagite and the agagites were sons of Amalek first born of Esau. AND after Esther and her king killed hamman, the people of the land convert to the religion of Hebrewism and became “jews”, and in that convertion the agagites and Asyrians converted too. But i love your work brother and im going to used and save it in my récords because bring a lot of light with all about the sinagogue of satan who control the world right now. Thanks for your work and YAH BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      Thanks, I appreciate the compliment and blessing. Same to you. Many forces and nations will rise against good, and a good portion of Kenites and Edomites will be among them. The reference to Esau and Jacob was just a comparison to how the end of this age and beginning of the new one will be- there will be no time between, unlike the previous age and this one. You’re well read,but be careful with the Apocrypha, some things from what I remember are at odds with the Bible, such as the next age lasting four hundred years.

  27. Rev. Reginold Pouncy, Pastor says:

    How did the children of Cain survive the world wide flood God sent destroy all the wicked people who refused to listen to the preaching of Noah for 120 years? Answer: They did not. Everyone living today are descended from Adam through Noah and his three Sons. Try the name Cain as meaning possessed spiritually and focus on the spiritual rather than the physical connection between people. After all Jacob and Esau were twins, same father and mother but God has said Jacob have I hated and Esau I have hated. If one exams the spiritual lives of both men you will find that both sinned but Jacob repented but Esau never did, though he sought it with tears. Check the scripture for yourself to see if what I am saying is true or not.

    • Jesse Norman says:

      With all due respect, Kenites did survive the flood because the original Hebrew says they did. Twice in the OT, the original Hebrew word for Kenite was Cain (Judges 4:11, Numbers 24:22). Being they existed after the flood, they had to survive it. As far as the spirituality goes, back in Judges, Kenites allied themselves with Israelites. So what evil spirit made them help the Israelites? I’m not going to have a mindset where I have my opinion that directly conflicts with what is written and chalk it up to it being a spiritual meaning. As far as repentance goes, perhaps we have two different definitions for it when one asks for it. Esau did repent. Was he forgiven? Who knows? It is written that God hated Esau, but again the original text clarifies things. It really says God detested Esau. That’s a big difference. I do know when Jacob returned, Esau treated him well. Isn’t it written that Judas repented? What was worse, betraying the Lord or selling one’s birthright for a pot of lentils?

      • Rev. Reginold Pouncy, Pastor says:

        I had hoped you would find the following scripture yourself, since you do not want your opinion to directly conflict with what is written.

        From Genesis 7:12-23 NKJV:
        “12 And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 On the very same day Noah and Noah’s sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and Noah’s wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark– 14 they and every beast after its kind, all cattle after their kind, every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, every bird of every sort. 15 And they went into the ark to Noah, two by two, of all flesh in which is the breath of life. 16 So those that entered, male and female of all flesh, went in as God had commanded him; and the Lord shut him in. 17 Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth. 18 The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. 21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died. 23 So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive.”

      • Jesse Norman says:

        I know of this scripture, and I also know that the Israelite prophets also told stories from an Israelite point of view, since they considered the Gentiles to be “common”, meaning unclean. Moses was writing to Israelites because only Israelites were chosen to receive these words. Since clearly physical Kenites existed after the flood and clearly, according to the Hebrew, Kenites were of the line of Cain, this has to be the case. It doesn’t say seven or one pair of animals (clean or unclean) were put on the ark, but “all flesh”.
        I do not go against scripture, but sometimes one has to use some patience to find the right answer. Kenites existed after the flood and they came from Cain. They had to have survived the flood. The Anakim were giants but they also survived. How?

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